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		<title>NDPWatch: Why suddenly so concerned about floor crossing, Official Opposition?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/inside-politics-blog/2011/11/ndpwatch-why-so-suddenly-concerned-about-floor-crossing-official-opposition.html November 2, 2011 11:21 AM &#124; Read 27 comments27 By Kady O&#8217;Malley Note: The following meanderings originally appeared on twitter, but have been tweaked, extended and edited for readability. Enthusiastic party press releases to the contrary, the next NDP-backed private members&#8217; bill headed for the floor of the House does not, in fact, &#8220;ban&#8221; [...]]]></description>
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<li><em>November 2, 2011 11:21 AM</em> | <a title="Read 27 comments" href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/inside-politics-blog/2011/11/ndpwatch-why-so-suddenly-concerned-about-floor-crossing-official-opposition.html#socialcomments"><em>Read 27 </em><em>comments</em><em>27</em></a></li>
<li><em>By <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/inside-politics-blog/author/author0b70f/">Kady O&#8217;Malley</a></em></li>
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<p><em>Note: The following meanderings originally appeared on twitter, but have been tweaked, extended and edited for readability. </em></p>
<p>Enthusiastic party press releases to the contrary, the <a href="http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&amp;Mode=1&amp;DocId=5147045&amp;File=24#1" target="_blank">next NDP-backed private members&#8217; bill</a> headed for the floor of the House does not, in fact, &#8220;ban&#8221; floor crossing outright, but would trigger an <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2011/11/02/pol-ndp-floor-crossing.html">automatic byelection</a> when an MP &#8220;becomes a member of a registered party&#8221; that did not endorse his or her candidacy in the election. <span id="more-611"></span></p>
<p>First of all, it&#8217;s worth noting that as drafted, C-306 could conceivably be seen as a violation the privilege of an individual MP to sit and vote with whatever caucus he or she chooses, although an easy workaround would be for MPs to sit as Independents, but vote and caucus with their newly chosen party, which could even put them on committees if it wanted to do so.</p>
<p>In fact, depending on the interpretation of the bill, the anti-floor-crossing provision may be even easier to dodge: Join the caucus, but not the party. In the section dealing with &#8220;change of political affiliation,&#8221; the bill cites the <em>Canada Elections Act</em> in the reference to &#8220;registered party,&#8221; which, as I can tell, would mean that the MP in question would have to become a card-carrying member of the party itself, not simply a member of the parliamentary caucus, as the latter are not registered under the Act.</p>
<p>Those technical quibbles aside, however, as noted above, the question of how the bill wound up on the private members&#8217; priority list is every bit as intriguing.</p>
<p>Before we get down to shameless speculation as to what may have motivated the move, a bit of background: the <a href="http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&amp;Mode=1&amp;DocId=2330167&amp;File=16#1" target="_blank">very first iteration of a bill</a> to trigger byelections when an MP switches parties was introduced back in 1997 by Reform MP Mike Scott.</p>
<p>Since then, it has been introduced, amid varying degrees of fanfare, by various and sundry NDP MPs &#8212; in most cases, by veteran New Democrat Peter Stoffer, but occasionally under the name of one of his caucus colleague &#8212; on <a href="http://www.parl.gc.ca/LegisInfo/BillDetails.aspx?Language=E&amp;Mode=1&amp;billId=5133402&amp;View=3" target="_blank">at least five different occasions</a>.</p>
<p>But despite having had multiple opportunities to do so, <a href="http://www.parl.gc.ca/LegisInfo/BillDetails.aspx?Language=E&amp;Mode=1&amp;billId=1407129" target="_blank">on only one occasion</a> has it been brought forward for second reading: in 2005, when Stoffer added it to the precedence list just weeks after Belinda Stronach abandoned the Conservative caucus to join then-Prime Minister Paul Martin&#8217;s cabinet on the eve of a critical confidence vote. (Not surprisingly, it was eventually defeated.)</p>
<p>A brief reminder on the rules that govern private members&#8217; business: MPs fortunate enough to win a spot near the top of the priority list are free to bring forward any bill or motion on the Order Paper, including those introduced by another member &#8212; a caucus colleague, or even someone from a different party.</p>
<p>At no point since 2005 has either Stoffer, or a New Democrat colleague with a higher slot on the priority list, chosen to do so with one of the many anti-floor crossing bills that have been up for grabs.</p>
<p>Flash forward, then, to September, when the now Official Opposition apparently found itself sufficiently seized with the issue for newly elected Quebec MP Mathieu Ravignat to introduce, under his own name, a bill identical to one that had already been tabled by Stoffer in June &#8212; one which, by virtue of Ravignat&#8217;s enviable slot on the precedent list, will proceed to second reading later today.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost as if the NDP is suddenly concerned by the prospect of MPs leaving the party under which they were elected.</p>
<p>Imagine this scenario: a post-leadership split within the party results in a good chunk of its Quebec caucus &#8212; to pick one at random &#8211;  setting up shop under a new name and leader, much like the MPs who would become<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloc_Qu%C3%A9b%C3%A9cois#Origins"> founding members</a> of the Bloc Quebecois did in 1990.</p>
<p>Under the current rules, depending on its size, that new caucus might even be able to challenge the NDP for the title of Official Opposition. Even if it did not, the emergence of a new caucus could significantly alter the procedural landscape: at minimum, the NDP would likely have to give up a few QP slots to the newly minted Third Party, and committee seats would likely be reallocated as well.</p>
<p>Under the rules proposed by the NDP, however, if the anti-floor-crossing provision does, in fact, kick in when an MP chooses to sit with a caucus under the banner of which he or she was not originally elected, those seats would automatically be declared vacant, resulting in Quebec-wide byelections &#8212; and depending on the timeline, another party &#8212; even, perhaps, the currently dormant Bloc Quebecois &#8212; could challenge many of those byelections, and quite possibly win back at least a few of those lost to the NDP during the last election.</p>
<p>That would seem to be a pretty powerful way to discourage a rookie NDP MP from signing on as a founding member of a new caucus.In any case, it might be well worth tuning into the Chamber for private members&#8217; hour later today, if only to see if any MPs raise the above possibility during debate.</p>
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		<title>Remarkable &#8211; The NDP tables bill to prevent floor crossing</title>
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<p><em>OTTAWA – New Democrat MPs Mathieu Ravignat (Pontiac) and Peter Stoffer (Sackville-Eastern Shore) tabled a Private Member’s Bill today to prevent MPs from changing political affiliations during their term.</em></p>
<p><em>“Members shouldn’t play petty politics and think only of their career, by changing political parties whenever they like,” said Ravignat. “MPs were elected personally, and under their party banner. We must ensure that members are accountable to their constituents.”</em></p>
<p><em>If adopted, this bill will prevent Members of Parliament from changing their party affiliation during their mandate. A member who wishes to leave their party would either have to sit as an independent or run in a by-election.</em></p>
<p><em>This bill was introduced by Peter Stoffer in the last Parliament.</em></p>
<p><em>“I am happy to support my colleague who is bringing the issue back to Parliament,” said Stoffer. “At the present time, any member can cross the House without accountability to their constituents. We are determined to prevent this from happening once and for all.”</em></p>
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		<title>Conservatives provide more protection for a pet MP</title>
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<div>Don Martin: Conservatives provide more protection for a pet MP</div>
<div><span>Posted: </span> February 09, 2010, 12:29 AM 			            by 			            Kelly McParland</p>
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<p><img style="margin-right: 10px;" src="http://www.nationalpost.com/_assets/blog_heads/donmartin.jpg" alt="" width="114" height="154" align="left" /><strong>He’s done it again.</p>
<p>An MP widely considered invisible at best, and horrible at worst, has been saved from local rejection after party headquarters denied his own riding directors the chance to shop for a better Conservative candidate.</strong></p>
<p>For reasons the national office will not explain, the Conservatives have thrown blanket protection over Calgary West MP Rob Anders to enforce his apparently unalienable right to carry their banner into the next election.</p>
<p>Not only did the party shut down any risk of the incumbent suffering a pre-election dumping, but last weekend it seized control of local membership lists, the cash box and the power to call an annual general meeting, shutting down a volunteer association elected only last March by Conservatives at large.</p>
<p><span id="more-485"></span>The only crime committed by these mutineering rascals was to request a vote among paid-up members on the possibility of contesting the re-nomination of Mr. Anders.</p>
<p>Fending off challengers might be understandable if the MP was a cabinet minister or MP with a hefty workload, but Mr. Anders is a zero-impact MP who only flares in the headlines when he opens mouth and inserts foot.</p>
<p>It’s true the Conservative constitution, as does all federal parties, permits national officials to annoint a candidate over local preferences. And there’s no denying party leadership the right to screen applicants vying to be its flagbearers for quality control.</p>
<p>But this heavy-handed move denies a local riding the right to even <em>ask the question</em> about contesting an incumbent of questionable quality. And that burns to the populist roots of a party whose first MP in that particular riding was named Stephen Harper.</p>
<p>Local sentiment is clearly against Mr. Anders as their preferred candidate. No other Conservative MP had a non-partisan website dedicated to defeating them in the last vote and no other association is so antagonistically divided over the merits of the local MP.</p>
<p>The Conservative party refuses all comment on the Calgary West fiasco, which only increases confusion on why it takes such a keen interest in keeping Mr. Anders on its backbench.</p>
<p>The hard-right, deeply pro-life Anders is an awkward fit with the upscale cosmopolitan voters of Calgary West, which boasts the eighth highest average family income in Canada.</p>
<p>“Rob is a true reformer and a true conservative,” Mr. Harper declared after saving his candidate from a challenge two years ago. “He has been a faithful supporter of mine and I am grateful for his work.”</p>
<p>Work? Really? Mr. Anders, 37, has spent his entire adult life as an rarely-seen MP, his only apparent profession being a paid heckler for a right-wing U.S. Republican candidate.</p>
<p>His main claim to political fame in the Commons was to deny the required House unanimity to bestow former South Africa president Nelson Mandela with an honorary Canadian citizenship.  His only contribution to Commons discourse last fall was to congratulate a local couple on their 55th wedding anniversary. His total verbal contribution to Hansard in 2009 was less than 600 words, making him the 302nd least talkative MP out of 308.</p>
<p>Even Alberta Conservatives are publicly complaining about Mr. Anders for his open flirtation with the upstart Wild Rose Alliance.</p>
<p>So why protect such a weak candidate when strong contenders would undoubtedly emerge to seek a seat which automatically delivers 50% of the vote to the Conservative?  Search me.</p>
<p>It would be a stretch to link the domineering nature of party managers to leader Stephen Harper, who is now suffering a backlash for dismissing Parliament on a whim and retaliating against opposition complaints by demanding longer sittings upon their return.</p>
<p>But Mr. Harper would undoubtedly have to sign off on this unprecedented act of national retaliation against locals whose only interest was to land the best possible candidate for their riding.</p>
<p>For the prime minister to treat rival parties with disdain is part of the political blood sport.</p>
<p>But to stomp on his own party members for daring to peep in protest at their low-calibre representative is freakish example of excessive control when member choice should prevail, particularly in a riding where being the ballot box Conservative is spelled M.P.<br />
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